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Torosaurus by nemo-ramjet Torosaurus by nemo-ramjet
A work-in-process from my latest palaeoart effort.
Some of these drawings look particularly haunting, especially when incomplete.
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WoundedGazelle1234 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013
it must be starving!
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Kraemer1991 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
I like what you've done so far, but I have a question for you. What's your thought on Torosaur actually being and adult Triceratops, as asserted by Jack Horner?
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012
I think these claims cannot be proven from skeletons. Different skeletons could be growth stages, and very similar skeletons can be different species. There is simply no way of knowing without having living populations to study. I think the whole issue is a futile and unproductive word-game.
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Jdailey1991 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
AMEN!
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triggamafia Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How is this coming along?
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roundgobyrock223 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
kool better than what i could ever do
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:iconvasix:
vasix Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very beautiful, I like the detail of the wrinkles.
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Thanks!
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:iconvasix:
vasix Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome!! :)
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Kronosaurus82 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011  Professional Artist
It looks great already, but don't you think that it's nostril is too small for an animal of such size?
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
You are probably right - I'll enlarge it in the final version...
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Baurusuchus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
Tempted to start a band called Torosaurus
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:iconnemo-ramjet:
nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
Haha, what genre would it be? "I was into Torosaurus before it was Triceratops..."
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Baurusuchus Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
some kind of psychedelic rock outfit. I'm thinking a little like Earthless: [link]

There shall be no room for neo-dino-hipsterism, only rock.

Amazing piece btw.
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Chimpeetah Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011
And the visuals have to very glam - if you're going to call yourselves Torosaurus , you're going have to look as out-there as the ceratopsians of days old ;)
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Baurusuchus Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011
Absolutely, four foot horns for all!
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Chimpeetah Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011
XD Yes, and large ruffled collars recalling the animals frill. Basically you'd be like Bowie, Gabriel,Bolan,GaGa hybrid-creatures XD
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bensen-daniel Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
Huh. Yeah, I like this one
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:iconnemo-ramjet:
nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
Thanks Dan...
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KriegsaffeNo9 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
Especially when rendered in colors like this. The first impression is really abstract before you can pick out hte details and assemble them into a beastie. It's very cool.
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
Thanks!
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Tzontlimixtli Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Is the pink for contrast to make drawing easier for you? (In which case you must have eyes of STEEL! o3o)
Or is it simply a Ramjetesque style?
Either way, I'm digging it. :]
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
It's a stylistic decision - it would kill me otherwise! :) I'm playing with colors and checking out how I can hint at the characteristics of the animal without using an "obvious" palette.
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Tzontlimixtli Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahh, makes sense. :) I couldn't imagine someone looking at it closely enough to actually draw it in that colour scheme. But I like it. It certainly doesn't come across as "obvious", but then, you rarely do. :)
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lamnay Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
I thought they got Pluto'd into being old Triceratops?
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
Maybe - It's very hard to conclusively prove these things from fossil remains and I find the whole "lumping-splitting" game a more-or-less semantic misuse of time and effort. If this animal indeed proves out to be a grown-up Triceratops, call it the "animal formerly known as Torosaurus" instead :)
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Jdailey1991 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
Toro is its own species, and here's why:

1)  If it were a mature Triceratops, then why the smaller body size?

2)  The frill of Trike was a low, broad shield while the frill of Toro was a tall, narrow oar full of holes.  Such plasticity can't exist on large vertebrates.

3)  Biodiversity.  Clumping denies its existence.
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tassietyger Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011  Student General Artist
I wouldn't be surprised if Titanoceratops ouranos would soon be considered as the oldest, mature form. Some find it as a relative to Eotriceratops xerinsularis and Ojoceratops fowleri which these two are found to be either the same species in the former genus or as Triceratops. If true in either case, Titanoceratops could be lumped in.

On the other hand, there are those who are against the notion some dinosaurs were just simply life stages (George Olshevsky is a prime example); then again, infant apes and humans in skeletal features look remarkably the same until they all grow up.
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Eriorguez Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
I would, seeing those lived up to 7 million years before Trike and Toro, which lived in the same place and area.
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tassietyger Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student General Artist
It wouldn't be weird. Some genera, like Homo and Canis have been around much longer than that. And I am not saying that they're all one species, I am saying that they were as little as two or three species of Triceratops which the adults look very different.
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Eriorguez Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012
Still, no overlap, quite distinct, and genus is subjective.
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tassietyger Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, remember this "comment thread" was made before the other major study that "proves" toro is not an old trike. But just because they may look distinctive, doesn't mean they're that far apart. Look at the Cougar and the Jaguarundi. While you can argue that might be better off as two separate genera that very close (and I am sort of on the boat with it), these two are classified as species of Puma and most scientists don't seem a problem with it.
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Eriorguez Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012
We have the advantage of molecular testing, tho.
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KriegsaffeNo9 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
The Animal Formerly Known as Torosaurus (three-horned male symbol)
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
:P
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